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Jay Jaffe: Good afternoon, of us! Welcome to a different version of my Tuesday chat, and apologies if the non-standard begin time threw anyone for a loop; I wanted to maintain some enterprise after submitting immediately’s piece a bit later than standard — a fast have a look at Jonathan Aranda’s breakout that took me a bit longer to finish than I anticipated as a result of I had colleague Davy Andrews over for beers final evening as ww watched some baseball. Anyway, that ought to go up at 1 pm ET.
Yesterday I wrote about Javier Báez’s rebound after two dismal seasons in Detroit. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-new-look-javier-baez-is-fun-again/. On Friday I took a have a look at some statistical anomalies inside extra-innings play so far this season https://blogs.fangraphs.com/weird-stuff-is-going-on-in-extra-innings-m…
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Jay Jaffe: Anyway, on with the present!
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You might have weakened: Your reverse-jinx powers aren’t any match for the supernova that’s Decide. I swear, each evening he doesn’t present up within the highlights, I’m like, effectively, guess he had a foul sport. (Seems to be ultimately evening’s field rating – 2-3 with a double and a couple of walks)
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Jay Jaffe: We’re seeing probably the greatest runs — if not the very best — by a hitter within the twenty first century. He’s hitting .414/.500/.783 (255 wRC+) six weeks into the season! Caught just a few of his at-bats within the final couple of days and it’s like he’s utilizing a pool cue on the market to position the ball the place the fielders ain’t.
12:20
Sodo Mojo: Who finally ends up with extra Profession WAR Julio Rodriguez or Aaron Decide. I don’t suppose Julio ever approaches Judges single season price stats however bought a 4 yr head begin.
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Jay Jaffe: I’m gonna go together with the man who appears to be like like he may be on his method to his third 10-win season out of 4.
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Jay Jaffe: I’d like to see Julio get to that stage, however he simply hasn’t proven the consistency to make me wager on him to surpass Decide even with the top begin.
12:23
Thanks for the chat!: What do the yanks do on the deadline?
12:24
Jay Jaffe: They’ll commerce for a beginning pitcher and a 3rd baseman. They in all probability at all times have been, however shedding Oswaldo Cabrera in such brutal style final evening was tough.
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Longo Lengthy Gone: Noticed a tidbit in Cup of Espresso that Evan Longoria will likely be signing the ceremonial one-day contract with the Rays earlier than retiring. Nice profession, robust argument for Greatest Ray in Franchise Historical past, and many others. – however in all probability not a Corridor of Famer. Is he a One and Completed case? Or does he eke out the 5% and stick round? How do you see his upcoming candidacy at this cut-off date?
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Jay Jaffe: My hunch is that regardless of a borderline 58.9/42.3/50.6 line that places him twentieth in JAWS amongst third basemen, he goes one-and-done. He didn’t make an All-Star crew after his third season, received just one Gold Glove thereafter, and fell in need of 2,000 hits. His Corridor of Fame Monitor rating of 42 actually speaks to the way in which he did issues that flew beneath the radar. It’s a little bit of a bummer, however I’m additionally shocked he didn’t a minimum of squeeze one other season or two out of his ability set.
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John: It’s nonetheless considerably early however is it truthful to say that Breslow hasn’t had a superb tenure up to now? Pulled again spending his first offseason, traded away Chris Sale for nothing, missed the playoffs regardless of Duran’s MVP season, Devers’ place fiasco, no path for Roman Anthony to get pt, and a .500 crew 6 weeks into the season. Not an ideal string of strikes.
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Jay Jaffe: The Sale commerce was extra a wage dump than the rest. I’ve preferred a few of the stuff he’s executed, however the glut of younger and proficient place gamers they’ve was largely amassed by Chaim Bloom, and wow, I actually don’t like the way in which the Pink Sox have dealt with the Rafael Devers state of affairs, which I wrote about this spring and which Davy coated yesterday https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-red-sox-are-pulling-the-wrong-levers-w…. This doesn’t grow to be a factor with out poor communication between the entrance workplace and the star slugger.
12:33
Matt VW: Would there be any draw back to the Pink Sox auditioning Rizzo? He has some (admittedly distant) earlier historical past with the group and he’d be the very definition of stopgap if he’s playable.
12:35
Jay Jaffe: he didn’t appear all in favour of taking part in for peanuts after a efficiency that, frankly, merited little or no assured cash. If he’s in form and has modified his tune, certain, it couldn’t damage, however his decline has been so steep that I can’t think about the result can be significantly constructive.
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Phil: So, um, Houck. . . I don’t even know what to ask. Would you strive the bullpen? Dobbins has pitched effectively, and Buehler’s coming again, so it’s an possibility. Or Worcester?
12:35
Jay Jaffe: I haven’t appeared into what’s happening there, however I feel we’ve bought any individual on Houck for tomorrow. I did see in his sport log that he has two begins with 2.1 innings and 11 earned runs allowed and woof, that’s simply brutal .
12:36
Barves: Any thought why the Braves have Verdugo batting leadoff? It’s sort of bizarre how they’ve a lot religion in a man they signed in March as a fill in, particularly since he’s not even hitting effectively
12:39
Jay Jaffe: Verdugo did get off to a sizzling begin upon becoming a member of the Braves after which went chilly, however we’re speaking a couple of first rate 65-PA stretch adopted by a 1-for-24. He’s what he’s, a below-average common who has some situational makes use of, however proper now the Braves are in need of wholesome outfielders as a result of their first wave — Kelenic and De La Cruz — failed so miserably.
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emh1969: I’m curious. Do you ever tire of writing or speaking in regards to the HOF?
12:43
Jay Jaffe: I don’t suppose I might maintain the depth of focus that I give it from November by way of January on a year-round foundation, however I’m more than pleased to write down and speak about it. It’s an ideal feeling to be acknowledged as an skilled in one thing — significantly one thing that so many individuals are so enthusiastic about.
12:43
Jeremy: Do you suppose the house owners would like to eliminate the minor leagues solely and outsource participant growth to the NCAA?
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Jay Jaffe: No, as a result of the incentives differ considerably. Schools are there to win now, to not develop gamers for fulfillment 5 years down the street. Main league organizations wish to information their gamers’ growth and use these gamers to fill their wants as they come up and because the gamers’ expertise dictates.
12:46
Alex R.: For the second yr in a row, the Braves offense is underperforming – significantly Harris, Albies, Olson, Riley, and definitely Arcia. Is it: a) league figured them out and so they haven’t adjusted; b) growing old coming faster than anticipated for Olson and Albies; c) none of them have been pretty much as good as they thought once they prolonged them, and 2021 was a fortunate fluke; or d) 14 months of unhealthy mojo that may even out quickly.
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Jay Jaffe: I feel their drawback is an outfield that has collectively produced -0.7 WAR off a 68 wRC+. They’ve gotten lower than nothing on the corners, as famous above, and I believe a few of the different gamers are urgent a bit to attempt to make up for that. The manufacturing of Riley and Olson isn’t what it was once, but it surely’s not out of line with what they did final yr. And that might hardly be an issue if Albies, Harris, and Acuña have been producing.
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Jay Jaffe: Given the peanuts a few of these guys are taking part in for, I don’t suppose you possibly can take situation with them not being “s good as they thought once they prolonged them.” Albies is making $7 million this yr, Arcia $2 million. In the event that they don’t carry out, it’s not a big monetary burden to interchange them.
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Mick Donfort: Let’s say that you simply grow to be the GM of the Rockies. What’s the very first thing you’d do? (in addition to resign)
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Jay Jaffe: gather each scrap of knowledge that the earlier regime collected, pour gasoline on it, and begin over.
12:53
Jay Jaffe: oh, first you may wish to mild a match and set that stuff on hearth. Sorry, sequencing is a matter immediately.
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Jay Jaffe: For actual, I feel you could begin by utterly changing anybody concerned in drafting and participant growth as a result of the Rockies simply haven’t been getting sufficient good gamers into their system.
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“Headstart”: Harper gave Decide a 5 yr headstart (together with his monster 2015) and he caught up. Unsure that issues for somebody like this.
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Jay Jaffe: A good level.
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Ryan Corridor: Addison Barger: the true deal?
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Jay Jaffe: he’s a forty five FV prospect with a 104 wRC+ whereas being shielded from lefties for many of his four-week stint. I’m undecided what sort of “actual” you’re on the lookout for however in case you’re asking if he’s going to show right into a star, I don’t see it.
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Tug: How a lot enjoyable was it to write down about Javy taking part in effectively once more? He is likely one of the guys who actually reignited my baseball fandom after a hiatus there so I couldn’t assist however smile whereas studying.
12:59
Jay Jaffe: Gamers with excessive performances are usually those that catch my consideration, and Javy, effectively, he’s very often been excessive in a single route or one other. However he’s so bodily proficient, particularly on protection. Watching him make these outfield grabs like he’d been doing it for a decade warmed my coronary heart. Positively a enjoyable piece to place collectively, and I’m glad it sparked some pleasure in readers as effectively.
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Lord Thunder: How a lot has Ronald Acuna’s HOF trajectory been affected by his accidents?
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Jay Jaffe: Drastically. At this level, he’s 27 and has had as many seasons price 4.0 bWAR or extra as he has ACL repairs. That’s… not a superb ratio.
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Jay Jaffe: Now, clearly Acuña has executed some issues that may be the muse of a HOF case, with the MVP and ROY awards, the 2 41-homer seasons and two stolen base crowns,. He’s already bought a 65 rating on the Corridor of Fame Monitor, as he’s doing issues that get voters’ consideration. However quantity one amongst of that is staying on the sector, and if he can’t do this, he received’t get there.
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md: any fringe-HOF potential candidates in future which have improved their potential probabilities considerably up to now this yr?
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Jay Jaffe: I wouldn’t precisely name them fringe until we’re doing “if his profession ended immediately” however I feel Goldschmidt is basically strengthening his case, and it’s good to see Machado, Arenado, and Jose Ramirez off to robust begins. Chris Sale is beginning to pull it collectively after just a few rocky begins.
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Jay Jaffe: (Sale is the furthest off of that bunch)
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Ozzie: What’s the take care of Baty beginning over Vientos? I get that Vientos began sluggish, however he has appeared significantly better these days and he’s a 30hr man.
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Jay Jaffe: The return of McNeil and the emergence of Acuña have sort of crowded the infield. Don’t neglect, Baty was simply despatched down just a few weeks in the past, then homered 3 times in two video games when he lastly bought to play back-to-back for the primary time in just a few weeks. Vientos has began the final three video games and gotten six hits, so he’s heating up as effectively, although his defensive metrics have been brutal. It’s a little bit of a juggling act for Carlos Mendoza proper now.
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Jeremy: Requested Ben this yesterday, curious in your take: do you suppose there’s a development for GMs/PBOs working into bother as a result of they will solely execute one plan/technique and may’t adapt to altering circumstances? Pondering of Zaidi with SF and Elias with Baltimore.
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Jay Jaffe: To me, the true situation in Baltimore isn’t Elias, it’s Rubenstein not spending as promised. The Orioles wanted to fortify their rotation this previous winter, and as a substitute they let Burnes stroll and changed him with Tomoyuki Sugano, a 35-year-old mid-rotation man from Japan. This can be a crew in win-now mode and their greatest offseason addition was Tyler O’Neill.
Zaidi caught some unhealthy breaks in SF. Shedding out on each Correa and Decide after they have been reported to have agreed to phrases, after which not discovering every other comparable stars to take a position these tens of millions… that’s tough. The accidents to that pitching workers didn’t assist.
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Jay Jaffe: I’m undecided it’s truthful to say that each of these POBs has/had just one technique
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brad: do the dodgers have any recourse for chopping ct3? been painful to look at his struggles on the plate
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Jay Jaffe: They’ve given him a protracted runway to show issues round however I believe he’s not going to make it by way of the season. Then once more, with Conforto struggling, Teoscar and Edman injuried, it’s not like they’re simply going to begin dumping alternate options. But when a numbers crunch occurs because it did final yr for Heyward, I feel Taylor attracts the quick straw
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Yeah Effectively Hiura Towel: Boone began Grisham towards a lefty. Yay, he should be a lineup common now!…however he additionally sat towards 2 righties final week. Huh??? Man is destroying the baseball, what are we doing right here?
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Jay Jaffe: The Yankees are attempting to suit 4 outfielders into three slots, and it’s not at all times a easy equation as to who sits, although it’s clearly not going to be Decide besides on uncommon events. Grisham and Dominguez are each taking part in very effectively, and Bellinger is heating up (11×33 final 8 video games). There are worse issues to have.
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Jeremy: Are the Rockies going to grow to be the pre-2016 Cubs? Loads of followers within the stands yr after yr although the crew is unhealthy yr after yr.
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Jay Jaffe: they’ll flip a revenue as a result of they’ve an ideal ballpark and aren’t spending a lot on gamers but it surely’s not like they’ve the lore or widespread nationwide fan base that the Cubs do.
1:27
Jay Jaffe: I actually don’t understand how you begin over there with out promoting the crew, particularly as Dick Monfort’s son is their scouting director.
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Ozzie: Is Justin Turner executed? He appears to be like fairly horrible on the plate up to now and he can not play protection.
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Jay Jaffe: He’s trying fairly cooked proper now. I don’t see loads to mitigate the ugly slash line.
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Visitor: In the event that they hold this up Aaron Decide may have the very best season many people have ever seen and Trent Grisham will lead the Yankees in residence runs. Now considered one of this stuff appears unlikely but when it does occur does Grisham price Decide a few MVP votes?
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Jay Jaffe: to not be pedantic however Decide has the sting on Grisham in homers. There’s nothing in his monitor document to recommend he’ll maintain a 48-homer tempo, and there’s no manner a voter goes to miss what Decide is doing even when his teammates — Goldschmidt is hitting .350! — are having nice seasons.
1:32
Smiling Politely: Is there any likelihood of relegation discuss being taken significantly in MLB within the subsequent 10 years?
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Jay Jaffe: there’s a higher likelihood I’ll be the Playboy Playmate of the Yr
1:33
Jay Jaffe: i do know the promotion and relegation system has its attract however it’s totally unimaginable to tug off inside a system the place even the crummy franchises are price a whole bunch of million {dollars} and the hole in services between a Triple-A ballpark and a significant league one is so huge.
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Jay Jaffe: there isn’t a single proprietor of a baseball crew or a single member of the gamers union who appears to be like at promotion/relegation and thinks, “sure, that’s what Main League Baseball wants”
1:35
Jeremy: Are the Guardians frauds? They’re 24-17 vs. a BaseRuns document of 17-24.
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Jay Jaffe: They’re 8-2 in one-run video games, which is the way you get imbalances like that. I believe the reality lies someplace within the center — they’re a .500ish crew with a middling offense and middling pitching.
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AL Central Casting: As a child (late 80s/early 90s), somebody informed me that when a house plate umpire requests assistance on a checked swing name, the hand he makes use of – proper or left – is a sign to the bottom umpire. One hand means “make the decision as you see it” and the opposite means “don’t overrule me.” It appeared true to me on the time, however once more, I used to be a child and I had no good method to confirm it. Have you ever ever heard of this? Might it’s true, and if that’s the case, might it actually stay a secret?
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Jay Jaffe: by no means heard that one. They’re pointing to first base for right-handed batters, third base for left-handed ones as a result of their views are much less impeded.
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Bullock: Do you have got a participant whose stats make you go, “dang, I by no means thought of this man a critical HOF candidate, but it surely’s laborious to disclaim this”? For me it’s Berkman (larger wOBA, wRC+, extra profession Offense runs than David Ortiz whereas taking part in the sector)
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Jay Jaffe: Longoria type of matches that mould, due to the strong JAWS and regardless of the dearth of different markers. Abreu may be in that camp as effectively, although his energy/pace/OBP combo was flashier
1:43
Query Man: Assume we’ll find yourself seeing 4 playoff groups out of the NLW? Or will considered one of PHI/NYM squeeze out the fourth NLW crew?
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Jay Jaffe: I believe we’ll get “solely” three NL West groups within the playoffs. A part of the rationale that division appears to be like so robust is that the groups have performed fewer intradivisonal video games than every other division. The Rockies have performed 13, the remainder solely 5 to eight. They’re gonna beat up on one another sooner or later.
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Bubba: Does Decide move Trout in WAR sooner or later?
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Jay Jaffe: Shade me skeptical. Decide has to make up one other ~30 WAR, and whereas Trout is having epic difficulties staying on the sector, there’s zero likelihood he walks away from the tens of millions of {dollars} he has assured by way of 2030.
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Chappy: Re: Fringe HOF candidates bettering themselves – I don’t know that he’ll really get there, however in case you squint juuuuust laborious sufficient, you possibly can see Matt Chapman growing old gracefully and getting sufficient love as a Protection Maestro come Corridor of Fame time.
I admit that it’s a protracted shot, however rooting for guys like that to spherical out their careers is as a lot enjoyable as watching the surefire candidates knock down milestone after milestone.
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Jay Jaffe: In Arenado, Machado, and Ramirez we’ve bought a pleasant crowd of HOF-bound 3B, however Chapman is at 36.5 for WAR7 and has banked three 7-WAR seasons together with one final yr, with low-hanging fruit padding out that peak rating. It’s not out of the query he might make a late run.
I’m not so optimistic about my stealth candidate, Marcus Semien — whom I in all probability ought to have talked about above. he’s nonetheless underwater, failing to learn from my reverse jinx powers
1:51
Annual HOF summer season article: So is that this the final yr you hassle to incorporate Decide on the annual “what he’s executed for his HOF probabilities” record and simply throw him within the intro with the Verlander sorts? (Not that he’s at 80WAR however the WAR7 is nuts)
1:51
Jay Jaffe: we’ll see 😉
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12 to six: i’ve reached the purpose of legit “this may be over” with respect to bobby miller. not precisely steve blass illness, however he appears to have utterly misplaced command and management. ideas?
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Jay Jaffe: Younger pitchers get damage on a regular basis, alas. A few of them by no means get it again. I’m not prepared to surrender on Bobby Miller but given the uncooked stuff and I don’t suppose the Dodgers are both however he’s a multitude, and attending to the underside of it — are there psychological components which are exacerbating his management points? bodily ones that he’s not being simple about with the crew? — is the following order of enterprise
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MF Luder: Possibly this has been requested earlier than, however does Alex Bregman challenge to be a Corridor of Famer?
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Jay Jaffe: He’s bought the identical WAR7 as Chapman, 36.5, and is a degree forward of him in JAWS, however he’s additional faraway from his bset seasons. They each have loads of work to do in the following few years to persuade me they’re on a HOF path.
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Jay Jaffe: Okay of us, I’m working out of time right here. Thanks a lot for stopping by!
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior author for FanGraphs, the writer of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Rating) metric for Corridor of Fame evaluation. He based the Futility Infielder web site (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing author for Sports activities Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring visitor on MLB Community and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Corridor of Fame voter since 2021. Observe him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
